To Weston and Back: "The Weston Run"
Moderators: Philip Whiteman, WorcsPhil, Beacon RCC, George, laurence_cooley, David Cole
Interesting to see the differing approaches to pre ride preparation and nutrition.
Personally, I've been fighting off a cold this week and was in need of a vitamin C boost so I've been eating industrial quantities of Terry's chocolate orange and lemon bon bons. To ensure I get the right amount of protein, I'll probably force down a bar or two of fruit and nut on Friday as well.
To keep energy levels up on the day itself I'll have a kebab on the way home from the pub Friday night (it'll be Guinness only in the pub) but will skip the chilli sauce (I am in training!). I'll also have a box of chocolate chip tracker bars down my jersey on the day. Hydration will be taken care of with a scientific mix of chateau de Severn Trent and Kia Orange orange.
All about the disaggregation of marginal something or other...
Personally, I've been fighting off a cold this week and was in need of a vitamin C boost so I've been eating industrial quantities of Terry's chocolate orange and lemon bon bons. To ensure I get the right amount of protein, I'll probably force down a bar or two of fruit and nut on Friday as well.
To keep energy levels up on the day itself I'll have a kebab on the way home from the pub Friday night (it'll be Guinness only in the pub) but will skip the chilli sauce (I am in training!). I'll also have a box of chocolate chip tracker bars down my jersey on the day. Hydration will be taken care of with a scientific mix of chateau de Severn Trent and Kia Orange orange.
All about the disaggregation of marginal something or other...
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Well, I have to say, there have been some disgraceful comments regarding preparation. Les, surely you realise things have moved on considerably since the days of Brew XI and Double Diamond. Any true modern cyclist wouldn't consider a diet of anything other than Banks' Mild, a champions choice.
Doubt I'll have time for breakfast as I'll be coming straight from a lock-in but a couple of esspressos on the way should see me right. If I get really jaded there's always a Fisherman's Friend or two.
Ian, what are you thinking ? Fruit and Nut ?
Oh dear, oh dear....
A TOPIC sir and nothing else !!!!!
Doubt I'll have time for breakfast as I'll be coming straight from a lock-in but a couple of esspressos on the way should see me right. If I get really jaded there's always a Fisherman's Friend or two.
Ian, what are you thinking ? Fruit and Nut ?
Oh dear, oh dear....
A TOPIC sir and nothing else !!!!!
Ready brek is your answer then phil I eat it all the time, they even pump in extra vitamins, all you do is boil the kettle an mix, just like instant mashed potatoes, not that anyone here eats them of course!laurence_cooley wrote:Contrary to Philip, I find that porridge is an ideal pre-cycling breakfast. Plenty of slow-release carbs. I also often eat it before going to bed at night as well, which I tell myself is OK because I once read that that's what Bradley Wiggins does.Philip Whiteman wrote:Porridge takes too long to prepare and sits heavily in the stomach.
Surely its better than pumping down a fry up or two before a ride! up to 400 calories a bowl or more now that's a lot of energy!
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Re: The Weston and Back
Les Ladbury wrote:I have been reading with interest the recommended preparation for the forthcoming ride to Weston and back.
In the old days the racing season would finish around the end of Sept or early October. That is except for those who competed in hill climbs or cyclo cross.
This heralded the start of the social season a time to consume as much, what would now be considered "unhealthy" food and it was not unknown for members of this club to cosume copious amounts of Brew XI and also to investigate the properties of DD.
DD or Double Diamond was a beverage which, it was alleged worked wonders and nothing the do with the size of ladies underwear.
Preparation for the Weston and Back consisted of Friday night at the Burnt Cork Club and Sturday night would see a band of dedicated athletes training at The Edward at the back of Halfords near the fire station in Birmingham.
On W&B week-end one would taper off training and forego an evening at The Edward but finalise our training with an evening at The Old Crown in Digbeth.
Midnight on the appointed Saturday in February would a band a cyclists, trained to the peak of athletic perfection would meet at the gents unrinal opposite the Psychiatric Hospital at Rubery to set off.
You will appreciate that recollections are a bit hazy beyond this but all that I can remember is that most of us did get back and that if some of the longer serving members of the Beacon appear to look older than their years would suggest there could be a very good reason for this.
George Huxley used to play at the Burnt Cork Club. His band was still going fairly recently.
A pretty fair appraisal of the build up to the W & B, Les. As I've repeatedly said, you didn't train for it, it WAS training, or at least a 'loosener' before the serious stuff.
Still, it's nice to know that these lads, in their wimpish way are paying tribute to the halcyon days of club life.
Good Luck, everyone.
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My post last night was a bit flippant, I know. The serious version is that it's too late for training and the pressures of day-to-day life leave relatively little scope for following a professional athlete's tapering programme. I will eat a good carb-rich meal tonight and try to get a good night's sleep, but that's about it. If others are able to more, great ... but I lack the mental energy to impose additional disciplines on myself, on top of those needed to get through the working week.
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Here is a little description of the route in terms of topography.
We start along the gently undulating A38 until Droitwich, after which we hit the more minor roads which have one or two sharp pulls before reaching Tewkesbury. The A38 dual carriageway to Gloucester possesses some gentle gradients. This section can be moderately busy until we reach the Gloucester Ring Road where we shall need to keep our wits about us.
To the south of Gloucester, the wide A38 carriageway quietens down. The road surface is a bit rough in places but fairly easy going. There are no steep sections but this portion of the route is deceptively hilly. To the north of Bristol lies a ridge and the A38 slowly grinds its way to the top before descending towards Avonmouth. It is a long haul either side of the ridge at a gradient guesstimated at 1:30. We loose height after leaving the A38 in Almondsbury, only reascend the ridge again into Henbury.
The steepest climb between Weston and Birmingham is man made; over the Avon Motorway Bridge. This will afford us some fantastic views towards Bristol and the Clifton Gorge, albeit with the thunder of traffic behind us.
The Gordano Valley route uses lanes. There are some short sharp pulls along their length as the lane stubbornly clings to the valley sides with M5 ever present above our heads. This section can be testing with tired legs. Few cars use this lane but they tend to be are driven by nerds and swivel eyed loons. Also, watch out for potholes and horse riders.
Beyond Clevedon, we cross the North Somerset Levels to Yatton before joining the Strawberry Line cycle path. Beyond the Strawberry Line, we will join the busy A371 into Weston. I suggest that we split into groups reduce the hazards created by impatient traffic.
Clearly, those riding north of Bromsgrove will have the toughest section to contend with; having to climb into Birmingham with tired legs.
We start along the gently undulating A38 until Droitwich, after which we hit the more minor roads which have one or two sharp pulls before reaching Tewkesbury. The A38 dual carriageway to Gloucester possesses some gentle gradients. This section can be moderately busy until we reach the Gloucester Ring Road where we shall need to keep our wits about us.
To the south of Gloucester, the wide A38 carriageway quietens down. The road surface is a bit rough in places but fairly easy going. There are no steep sections but this portion of the route is deceptively hilly. To the north of Bristol lies a ridge and the A38 slowly grinds its way to the top before descending towards Avonmouth. It is a long haul either side of the ridge at a gradient guesstimated at 1:30. We loose height after leaving the A38 in Almondsbury, only reascend the ridge again into Henbury.
The steepest climb between Weston and Birmingham is man made; over the Avon Motorway Bridge. This will afford us some fantastic views towards Bristol and the Clifton Gorge, albeit with the thunder of traffic behind us.
The Gordano Valley route uses lanes. There are some short sharp pulls along their length as the lane stubbornly clings to the valley sides with M5 ever present above our heads. This section can be testing with tired legs. Few cars use this lane but they tend to be are driven by nerds and swivel eyed loons. Also, watch out for potholes and horse riders.
Beyond Clevedon, we cross the North Somerset Levels to Yatton before joining the Strawberry Line cycle path. Beyond the Strawberry Line, we will join the busy A371 into Weston. I suggest that we split into groups reduce the hazards created by impatient traffic.
Clearly, those riding north of Bromsgrove will have the toughest section to contend with; having to climb into Birmingham with tired legs.
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Best of luck for tomorrow, concerning your debate on breakfast, this is from team Sky, interesting watch. sound quality could be better.
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dweben wrote:What's the story with the support van? Can we load a small bag into it and where it's starting from? Was thinking of spare tubes/food/gilet/etc...
Support van? It is a case of picking up food and drink en-route.
I didn't realise that you are coming but it is nice to have you along. I have sent out a route card via e-mail to recipients but you will have missed that mailing.
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Sorry, I should have clarified the matter with regard to Bob's caravan. Bob had kindly offered at the beginning but as the numbers grew we both realised that his caravan's limited facilities would not cope with 20+ riders, so I suggested that we use shop and cafe stops instead.
When the idea of Weston was mooted, few realised how popular it would become. Hence, I eventually capped the number of participants as the consequence would have become a logistical nightmare and I have enough on my plate with two sets of audaxes and a perm to worry about.
When the idea of Weston was mooted, few realised how popular it would become. Hence, I eventually capped the number of participants as the consequence would have become a logistical nightmare and I have enough on my plate with two sets of audaxes and a perm to worry about.
And deservedly so, you scoundreldweben wrote:. I'm feel unloved.
Too much detail already I thinkAnimal wrote:my breakfast consists of a ....... bowel of muesli.....
Inspired by all this talk of beer fuelled rides to far off places, a few of us more sedate members, some of whom possibly have some lefty revolutionary tendencies, started plotting a ride to the Kremlin and hopefully back. More of that another day perhaps, in the meantime bon voyage and bon chance everybody for tomorrow.
Eat cake before you're hungry
Very best of luck to all taking part, it seems you will have the weather on your side for a nice change.
Wish I was taking part (Really), but I had to bail out a few days ago as I've been laid up with a chest infection and sinusitis. I did 15 miles today, and though I was going to collapse. On the mend now, but a slow process.
Wish I was taking part (Really), but I had to bail out a few days ago as I've been laid up with a chest infection and sinusitis. I did 15 miles today, and though I was going to collapse. On the mend now, but a slow process.
<@> I see I'll be missing quite a day.dweben wrote:You haven't got enough hair to worry about a perm..."Philip Whiteman"Hence, I eventually capped the number of participants as the consequence would have become a logistical nightmare and I have enough on my plate with two sets of audaxes and a perm to worry about.
Update to those anxiously awaiting news of the intrepid expeditioners*...
Philip left a message at 2.45pm to say that they were on Weston sea front and about to embark on the return leg, perhaps a little later than hoped, but apparently in good spirits.
*spell-check really doesn't like that word. Curious.
Philip left a message at 2.45pm to say that they were on Weston sea front and about to embark on the return leg, perhaps a little later than hoped, but apparently in good spirits.
*spell-check really doesn't like that word. Curious.
Why?
Made it! Huge thanks to Phil in particular, but to everyone.
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Many thanks to Phil for his effort over and above the call of duty not only with organising this, but keeping everyone together all day long and a very long day at that!
Congratulations to everyone that finished and thanks for your company. And yes I still have that (very) rather large bag of "Sports" wine gums in my back pocket.
Congratulations to everyone that finished and thanks for your company. And yes I still have that (very) rather large bag of "Sports" wine gums in my back pocket.
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Congratulations everyone, what a day.
Couldn't sleep because my legs were still trying to pedal.
Big thanks to everyone for their company (especially Matt and Paul for the drugs....) , what a great bunch of chaps.
Phil, a big, big thank you on behalf of us all for everything you put in to organising 'the big day out' ..... fantasitc.
I hope the Audax honchos sort out those ATM receipts and send you a big medal, thanks again and sorry for all the faffing
Couldn't sleep because my legs were still trying to pedal.
Big thanks to everyone for their company (especially Matt and Paul for the drugs....) , what a great bunch of chaps.
Phil, a big, big thank you on behalf of us all for everything you put in to organising 'the big day out' ..... fantasitc.
I hope the Audax honchos sort out those ATM receipts and send you a big medal, thanks again and sorry for all the faffing