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Beacon logo revamp

Post by HAZBRO » 26 Aug 2012 20:13

guys to pass the time and to give me a bit of practise in my new college course ill revamp the club logo, it will remain exactly the same but it will be sparkling in 1080p with shadows and slight 3d effect, including ambient occlusion, and a environmental effect e.g. different lighting effects, and force effects such as impact and explosion also i may add sillowettes of cyclists in the background I tell you once ive revamped you will be going WOW i can guarantee ive done so much work with this software it should be a piece of cake!

ill upload several different versions and hopefully they may even get put on the website,
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Post by HAZBRO » 26 Aug 2012 20:16

Oh yes does anybody want the different stages of the creation of the logo and how its done I can easy screenshot each section if anybodys interested about how these things are made
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Post by laurence_cooley » 26 Aug 2012 20:23

You might want to have a read of this thread before suggesting anything (providing you've got an hour or three to spare!).

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Post by HAZBRO » 26 Aug 2012 20:29

Yes i know you have to stick to certain colours and that but it doesn't matter any way it just gives me something to copy and and try to reproduce it at a higher quality it doesn't matter if it dont get put on the website its just practice for me for future work if ive ever go into this industry and its a base to work on
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Post by CakeStop » 26 Aug 2012 20:44

Looking forward to see what you come up with Harry.

I'm not sure how much appetite there will be to changing the design of the
logo (I wouldn't be surprised if it dates back to 1946) but, even if the design remains the same, it would be good to have a nice crisp, sharp, hi-res version with a better font for the "BEACON" and avoiding mixed fonts.
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Post by HAZBRO » 26 Aug 2012 20:55

Unveil will be next Saturday if i can get the rendering sorted,
That'll get everybody on their computers and into the 21st century WE GOOOO

Saturday 1st September, 8pm (alpha version)

Also ill release some other work onto you tube for you guys to have a look at. Even some stuff i did back in school

I can tell you now nothing will be modified!
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Post by Andy Terry » 26 Aug 2012 21:58

I was hoping we could get a sharper logo to use on the updated message board (when we get round to it) so I look forward to seeing v1.0

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Post by CakeStop » 26 Aug 2012 22:22

We do have sharper than that Andy but you lose the sharpness when it's reduced to that size.
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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 15:29

Whats the name of that thing which the 'BEACON' text sits on ??
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Post by Andy Terry » 27 Aug 2012 16:49

CakeStop wrote:We do have sharper than that Andy but you lose the sharpness when it's reduced to that size.
Indeed. We need one that is sharp at the small size.

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Post by Andy Terry » 27 Aug 2012 16:55

HAZBRO wrote:Whats the name of that thing which the 'BEACON' text sits on ??
No idea. The things on the ends of it are wings. You see a lot of wings on older cycling club logos, for example:

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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 16:58

Its a bloody pain to remodel the banner so can someone post the high res version of the beacon logo as a image and then i can crop the banner out and paste it into the newer version and then remodel it from their but so far the new logo looks brilliant and its half done!
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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 17:02

Oh yes Andy how did you post a image onto the thread i dont know how you do it
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Post by Andy Terry » 27 Aug 2012 17:08

HAZBRO wrote:Oh yes Andy how did you post a image onto the thread i dont know how you do it
Put the image URL inside Image tags or select the URL text and click the 'Img' button

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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 17:33

Cheers now ive just got to hope it works when i come to upload on saturday
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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 17:34

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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 17:36

This isnt the logo ive been working on
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Post by Dave Cox » 27 Aug 2012 17:58

We've still got plenty of current logo frame stickers and some car window stickers if anyone needs one £2 let me know before they become retro chic!

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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 19:43

The logo is 2/3 complete well v1.0 is, font can be modified easily and also the wings may have to be redone as they are not fully round yet just need a high res version beacon logo cus the one on the message board is low quality so tracing round may have been inaccurate, the green and the red colour is slightly arcady but that can be modified, currently have to model the arch on top of the beacon and then model it into 3d standard ALMOST THERE ITS ONLY MONDAY AS WELL
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Post by CakeStop » 27 Aug 2012 20:16

Here's the best copy I have....

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... not sure that gold is constitutional but it looks like someone's scanned an embroidered jersey or something at some stage so it must be OK.
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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 20:39

Brilliant thanks for that steve i always thought it was yellow round the edges obviously not, that will make life a lot easier now for the wings and done to scale :)
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Post by smorty » 27 Aug 2012 21:12

Oh yes does anybody want the different stages of the creation of the logo and how its done I can easy screenshot each section if anybodys interested about how these things are made
Sounds interesting... yes please - cheers, Steve
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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 21:16

The the amount of effort you have to put in to make semi circles are unbelievable on this piece of software no wonder they hand made the logo in 1946!!!

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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 21:19

Oh yes Steve next week ill start a thread 'the making of the logo' and a thread 'The Beacon logo V1.0 ' The amount of screenshots are endless but of course interesting if you've got an hour or a day to spare!

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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 21:49

Update - All gold embroidery is being replaced by a gold plate im not sure whether to give it a pattern yet or even stick back to embroidery which would be quite tricky and may just look like a birds nest because the detail is going to be shown on a big scale so the minor things have to be addressed!
Also the arches above the title will be glowing against the reflective black backing they are in front of this will make the logo STAND OUT, also I might give them a Matt white paint so they reflect against the glossy black paint and i may change the lighting to give it a shadow Also any font recomendations for the 'roads cycling club' go into word and experiment and post away !!
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Post by CakeStop » 27 Aug 2012 22:27

I reckon any pattern on the copy I posted would have been an artifact from its origin not a desired effect. I'd recommend keeping it crisp & clean.
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Post by HAZBRO » 27 Aug 2012 22:29

SNEAK PEAK SO FAR
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Post by HAZBRO » 28 Aug 2012 22:50

Update - Wings have fully been redone and look almost identical,thanks to Steve smith and the hi res beacon logo pic, edges have now been addressed with a gold color as it is in the real beacon logo, i have applied this to the wings as well and now there is one more thing to do which is to do the tedious job of tracing the arches above the wings and then leveling them out at the same height as the wings and apply white paint to em!!!

So far the logo just needs a few more colour adjustments to get an 'emerald green'and a brighter white for the wings and text. And finally level everything out so its all even and then its DONE!

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Post by HAZBRO » 28 Aug 2012 22:57

the BEACON font is Times New Roman

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Post by HAZBRO » 28 Aug 2012 23:07

Problem - does anybody know the font of the ROADS CYCLING CLUB

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Post by Grogz » 29 Aug 2012 08:21

HAZBRO wrote:Problem - does anybody know the font of the ROADS CYCLING CLUB
Arial, maybe a rounded version?

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Post by Philip Whiteman » 29 Aug 2012 09:20

Just to chuck in a spanner, any new version of the logo needs to be distinct in black and white as well as in colour. Not all publications are printed in colour.

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Post by George » 31 Aug 2012 09:18

I think it's great that the club has young, energetic members willing to put time and effort into a project like this. I therefore feel very uncomfortable about making any kind of negative response. Nevertheless, I feel compelled to put a stick in the wheel.

The Beacon badge is an integral part of the club's identity and heritage. It isn't something that an individual member or a handful of members should be able to arbitrarily change without any evidence that there's a general desire for change in the membership at large.

While I can see that it's a interesting and educationally useful project for Harry, I can't recall reading or hearing anything to suggest that there is a genuine wish or need for change. Have I missed something?

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Post by Dave Cox » 31 Aug 2012 14:50

Agree with you George. committee meeting on Monday. The CTC's switch from the historic winged wheel to the current lazy bike took years of aggro which still stirs controversy - in fact we had to sort of keep both and two jerseys. Wheel logos are retro chic or historic e.g. League of American Wheelmen.

Logo wars are a whole chapter of cultural sociology. Uni of Bham kept its crest alongside tedious modernist U of B thing. BCU by passed heraldry by nicking a design off the previous Director/VC's PA's secretarial certificate from the College of Commerce.

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Post by HAZBRO » 31 Aug 2012 16:12

Hang on a minute, i never said that its a new logo for the club i just copied it to give me a bit of practice before college, and posted on here as its the logo of the club for people to have a look at, theres nothing serious going on
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Post by CakeStop » 31 Aug 2012 20:09

That's how I saw it Harry which is why I didn't discourage you. I thought a hi-res cleaned up replica of the current logo might be useful to the club, a slightly modified version might be useful to consider, and an imaginative concept might be an interesting exercise for you. Going through the pain of coming up with something that a fussy client is happy with will be a relevant learning exercise and if you can please a disparate group of odd balls such as one finds in a cycling club you can crack anything.
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