Re: Handicap competition 2022

[Simon Dighton]

Getting up to speed - here are the results from the first round. Typically the handicap competition has been a rider's best 10 results but given reduced number of races think we should probably reduce to say, best 7? Any thoughts there are 11 races available to count

Act Exp H'cap H'cap time H'time / rest Points
Ed Moss 47.47 48.49 -1.49 45.58 45.58 40
Kit Buchanan 48.51 55.30 -8.30 40.21 47.00 39
Rebecca Lane 58.36 59.30 -12.30 46.06 47.00 38
Kevin Satterthwaite 54.49 55.30 -8.30 46.19 47.00 37
Simon Woodward 57.02 55.30 -8.30 48.32 47.00 36
Ian Taylor 50.55 50.27 -3.27 47.28 47.28 35
Gavin Giles 56.33 55.30 -8.30 48.03 48.03 34
Roger Cutler 47.28 45.47 1.53 49.21 49.21 33
Mark Roberts 55.48 51.58 -4.58 50.50 50.50 32

[Simon Dighton]

13-Apr-22 K36/4.5*2 Act Exp H'Cap H'cap time
Roger Cutler 19.18 19.17 0.43 20.01 40
Ed Moss 20.21 20.19 -0.19 20.02 39
Paul Gething 26.29 25.23 -5.23 21.06 38
Greg Reynolds 23.05 21.48 -1.48 21.17 37

[laurence_cooley]

Typically the handicap competition has been a rider's best 10 results but given reduced number of races think we should probably reduce to say, best 7? Any thoughts there are 11 races available to count

I was going to suggest eight, just because it's a round number, but given that several regulars have missed rounds due to having COVID and we've also encouraged two-ups (which I presume don't count for the handicap), seven sounds fair.

[Simon Dighton]

27-Apr-22 K36/4.5*2 Act Exp H'Cap H'cap time
Celia Brown 23.18 27.11 -7.11 16.07 40
Roger Cutler 19.54 19.17 0.43 19.57 39
Mark Roberts 22.19 21.22 -1.22 20.57 38
Claire Fudge 24.39 23.25 -3.25 21.14 37

[Simon Dighton]

27-Apr-22 K36/4.5*2 Act Exp H'Cap H'cap time
Celia Brown 22.17 23.18 -3.18 18.59 40
Ed Moss 20.25 20.19 -0.19 20.06 39
John Hitchcock 23.23 22.58 -2.58 20.25 38
Mark Roberts 21.56 21.22 -1.22 20.34 37
Richard Kings 28.32 25.47 -5.47 22.45 36

[Simon Dighton]

K34/25 20-Jul-22 Act Est H'cap H'cap time Points
Ian Taylor 53.54 62.00 8.00 45.54 40
Celia Brown 55.55 71.30 17.30 47.52 39
Claire Fudge 59.19 62.35 8.35 50.44 38

Calculated as 22/25*54 - ie adj for shortened course

[Simon Dighton]

24-Apr-22 LMTT Act Exp H'Cap H'cap time Points
Celia Brown 118.10 123.42 -23.42 94.28 40
Simon Dighton 112.17 112.35 -12.35 99.42 39
Kevin Satterthwaite 112.01 140.00 -40.00 100.00 38
Ed Moss 119.32 140.00 -40.00 100.00 37
George Thorne 119.39 140.00 -40.00 100.00 36
Greg Reynold 127.45 140.00 -40.00 100.00 35
Mark Roberts 127.52 124.58 -24.58 102.94 34

[Simon Dighton]

Looking like a 2 up between Celia and Ed although a couple of others may have something to say about that.

Bit of admin before the points Are Rebecca Lane and Kit Buchanan Beacon members with apols for asking

How many races should we have counting this year say 7 from 11 (last year was 10 from approx 20)?

& was there a TT on 25 May?.

Enough of admin here are the points

324 154 259 154 190 117
K32 /20 K34/25 K22/39 K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2 K34/25
Season Summary No. of Cumulative points 26-Mar-22 13-Apr-22 24-Apr-22 27-Apr-22 11-May-22 20-Jul-22
Riders races (top 10 results) K32 /20 K34/25 K22/39 K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2 K34/25
Celia Brown 4 159 40 40 40 39
Ed Moss 4 155 40 39 37 39
Mark Roberts 4 141 32 34 38 37
Roger Cutler 3 112 33 40 39
Kevin Satterthwaite 2 75 37 38
Claire Fudge 2 75 37 38
Ian Taylor 2 75 35 40
Greg Reynolds 2 72 37 35
Kit Buchanan 1 39 39
Simon Dighton 1 39 39
Rebecca Lane 1 38 38
John Hitchcock 1 38 38
Paul Gething 1 38 38
Simon Woodward 1 36 36
Richard Kings 1 36 36
George Thorne 1 36 36
Gavin Giles 1 34 34

[laurence_cooley]

There was an event on 25 May - I've just got the results off of George and posted them - but it was advertised as a two-up road bike event, so I'm not sure whether that should exclude it from the handicap competition? Edit: though some others were also advertised as two-ups...

[Simon Woodward]

Getting up to speed - here are the results from the first round. Typically the handicap competition has been a rider's best 10 results but given reduced number of races think we should probably reduce to say, best 7? Any thoughts there are 11 races available to count

Act Exp H'cap H'cap time H'time / rest Points
Ed Moss 47.47 48.49 -1.49 45.58 45.58 40
Kit Buchanan 48.51 55.30 -8.30 40.21 47.00 39
Rebecca Lane 58.36 59.30 -12.30 46.06 47.00 38
Kevin Satterthwaite 54.49 55.30 -8.30 46.19 47.00 37
Simon Woodward 57.02 55.30 -8.30 48.32 47.00 36
Ian Taylor 50.55 50.27 -3.27 47.28 47.28 35
Gavin Giles 56.33 55.30 -8.30 48.03 48.03 34
Roger Cutler 47.28 45.47 1.53 49.21 49.21 33
Mark Roberts 55.48 51.58 -4.58 50.50 50.50 32

Simon, Is it possible to explain how this works again?
I thought I'd set a PB but I'm not sure how this works out in the results?

[Simon Dighton]

Hi Simon

I don't have a record of you having raced the course before. If you let me have the details I can get that all changed. The person who beats their PB by the most gets the most handicap points etc

Best, Simon

[Simon Woodward]

Hi Simon

I don't have a record of you having raced the course before. If you let me have the details I can get that all changed. The person who beats their PB by the most gets the most handicap points etc

Best, Simon

It was my first ever TT last year

First race of the season and everyone PB'd (who had a time in recent history).Full honours go to Mark Roberts but with that many PB's today it will make for an interesting competition.

Act Exp H'cap H'cap time Points
Mark Roberts 52.12 65.24 11.24 40.48 40
Gemma Johnson 54.07 66.43 12.43 41.24 39
Roger Cutler 45.47 58.22 4.22 41.25 38
Ian Taylor 51.06 62.00 8.00 43.06 37
Richard Kings 69.24 79.30 25.30 43.54 36
Keith Adcock 61.41 66.59 12.59 48.42 35
Amarajit Sanghera 62.55 66.59 12.59 49.56 34
Chris Hudson 63.30 64.05 10.05 53.25 33
Ed Moss 48.49 66.30 12.30 54.00 32 **
Claire Fudge 57.44 71.30 17.30 54.00 31 **
Simon Woodward 63.41 66.30 12.30 54.00 30 **

** restricted to base time

Please let me know if I have missed any Beacon riders

Best, Simon

[Celia_brown]

This is very complicated! My tuppence worth is that we may need to include 2-ups to get enough scoring rounds in?
Is it best to do this week’s solo so it can count?
Not that I’m competitive

[Simon Dighton]

03-Aug-22 K36/4.5*2 Act Exp H'Cap H'cap time
Celia Brown 22.20 22.17 -2.17 20.03 40
John Hitchcock 24.11 22.58 -2.58 21.13 39
Greg Reynolds 23.03 21.48 -1.48 21.15 38
Gavin Giles 24.08 22.36 -2.36 21.32 37

Just about to put up results from the Club 10 and then will put up scores to date

[Simon Dighton]

Thanks Simon

That takes you to the top on handicap for the K33/20

Act Exp H'cap H'cap time H'time / rest Points
Simon Woodward 57.02 63.41 -16.41 40.21 40.21 40
Ed Moss 47.47 48.49 -1.49 45.58 45.58 39
Kit Buchanan 48.51 55.30 -8.30 40.21 47.00 38
Rebecca Lane 58.36 59.30 -12.30 46.06 47.00 37
Kevin Satterthwaite 54.49 55.30 -8.30 46.19 47.00 36
Ian Taylor 50.55 50.27 -3.27 47.28 47.28 35
Gavin Giles 56.33 55.30 -8.30 48.03 48.03 34
Roger Cutler 47.28 45.47 1.53 49.21 49.21 33
Mark Roberts 55.48 51.58 -4.58 50.50 50.50 32

Best, Simon

[Simon Dighton]

& handicap results from the club 10 - the way I worked this was to use the handicap from the K33/4.5*2 and multiply by 10/9. Just thinking next year I will just show how far people are ahead or behind of their PB's - (with a best of zero if first time on course) as that produces exactly the same result as times are currently calculated but seems much more intuitive to understand)

17/08/2022 K36/4.5*2 Act Exp H'Cap H'cap time
Simon Dighton 23.14 23.47 -3.47 19.27 40
Celia Brown 24.44 24.46 -4.46 19.58 39
John Hitchcock 25.33 25.31 -5.31 20.02 38
Daniel Hand 26.35 26.07 -6.07 20.28 37
Richard Kings 30.32 28.39 -8.39 21.53 36
Greg Reynolds 26.07 24.13 -4.13 21.54 35
Steve Price 31.46 26.07 -6.07 25.39 34
Helen Colson 33.01 27.13 -7.13 25.48 33
Simon Richard 37.47 26.07 -6.07 31.40 32

[Simon Dighton]

Congrats to Celia who with 2 races too go cannot be caught - quite handy as we don't have to decide how many races there should be as no way of catching Celia on any method - 4 first places and 2 second places really nailed it. many congrats.

Next year will make it easier to understand by showing how the actual time is better or worse than the PB time - the way it is currently done gives exactly the same result but complicates the understanding. However if someone has beaten their PB by 20 seconds and someone has missed their PB by 5 seconds fairly obvious what the handicap order should be.

324 154 259 154 190 117 154 Club 10
K32 /20 K34/25 K22/39 K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2 K34/25 K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2+1
Season Summary No. of Cumulative points 26-Mar-22 13-Apr-22 24-Apr-22 27-Apr-22 11-May-22 20-Jul-22 03-Aug-22 17/08/2022
Riders races (top 10 results) K32 /20 K34/25 K22/39 K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2 K34/25 K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2+1
Celia Brown 6 238 40 40 40 39 40 39
Ed Moss 4 154 39 39 37 39
Greg Reynolds 4 145 37 35 38 35
Mark Roberts 4 141 32 34 38 37
John Hitchcock 3 115 38 39 38
Roger Cutler 3 112 33 40 39
Simon Dighton 2 79 39 40
Claire Fudge 2 75 37 38
Ian Taylor 2 75 35 40
Kevin Satterthwaite 2 74 36 38
Richard Kings 2 72 36 36
Gavin Giles 2 71 34 37
Simon Woodward 1 40 40
Kit Buchanan 1 38 38
Paul Gething 1 38 38
Rebecca Lane 1 37 37
Daniel Hand 1 37 37
George Thorne 1 36 36
Steve Price 1 34 34
Helen Colson 1 33 33
Simon Richard 1 32 32

Best, Simon