RESULT: K35/6G 24th March 2012

Discussion about and results of Beacon club time trials and Beacon member participation in open time trials

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RESULT: K35/6G 24th March 2012

Post by Andy Terry » 24 Mar 2012 15:34

Handicap times/positions subject to ratification.

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Name            Time    Position    Handicap    Handicap time   Handicap position
Dave Cole       19:15   12          4.41        14:34           8
Richard Kings   19:09   11          4.54        14:15           5
Steve Bull      15:27   1           2.00        13:27           3
Lee Marrow      17:06   5                   
Richard Greer   16:32   4           3.00        13:32           4
Neil Compton    18:23   8           3.51        14:32           7
Paul Deane      19:03   10          2.38        16:25           10
Gary Mackintosh 16:12   2           3.39        12:33           1
Rosie Croggan   19:37   14          
Brian Botfield  17:23   6           3.58        13:25           2
Dave Hughes     19:21   13          
Charles White   18:58   9           4.01        14:57           9
Simon Dighton   16:13   3           1.43        14:30           6
Phil Gameson    17:57   7           

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Post by Stats » 24 Mar 2012 17:09

Sorry guys but Handicap placings need to be checked as there is definately 1 error sorry Gary your pb is 16.11 from August so H/Cap should be 1.11 not 3.39 Also Steve your PB was 16.13 so H/Cap should be 1.13 I'll be checking the others shortly yes it looks like PB's from August were not added to the New Tables so a bit of checking & some corrections to do also H/Caps for new riders to add

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Post by David Cole » 24 Mar 2012 18:23

Well Done Steve and all the others who competed in todays TT.
A very good turn out with 14 riders and such a lovely day.

Thanks to Brian for organising the event and to Andy and Simon for timekeeping and pushing off

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Post by chalkie » 24 Mar 2012 20:13

yes thanks to steve, brian, andy, simon. good and sunny for the start of TT season 8)
and on the 7th day God created CLEATS..!

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Post by RichK » 25 Mar 2012 10:50

again thanks to all.

It's really good to get the season underway (it's been a particularly long winter) though today I'm rediscovering muscles I'd forgotten about.

Roll on a fortnight, petrol supplies allowing :roll:
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Post by Johnnyc » 25 Mar 2012 13:48

Well done everybody - some pretty decent times there - how were the roads?

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Post by George » 25 Mar 2012 16:13

Well done, all, and congratulations, Steve.

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Draft results in handicap order

Post by Simon Dighton » 25 Mar 2012 18:12

Including the effect of the last tt of last year and new riders to Beacon TT (their times are restricted to being no lower than base time) below are the draft results. Please note if anyone is over 60 please let me know as your time will decrease by approx 1% - the only person I have adjusted is Dave C. Layout is not great, just trying to work it out, but basic explanation is actual time, handicap, age adj if required (nothing if not), handicap time and handicap points. Please let me know if any questions.

Time H'cap Age adj Final Points
Min - sec Min - sec Min - sec Min - sec
Brian Botfield 17.23 3.58 13.25 40
Steve Bull 15.27 1.13 14.14 39
Richard Kings 19.09 4.54 14.15 38
Dave Cole 19.15 4.41 0.12 14.22 37
Simon Dighton 16.13 1.43 14.30 36
Neil Compton 18.23 3.51 14.32 35
Charles White 18.58 4.01 14.57 34
Lee Marrow * 17.06 3.00 15.00 33
Richard Greer * 16.32 3.00 15.00 33
Phil Gameson * 17.57 3.00 15.00 33
Gary Macintosh 16.12 1.11 15.01 30
Dave Hughes 19.21 3.30 15.51 29
Rosie Croggan 19.37 3.30 16.07 28
Paul Deane 19.03 2.38 16.25 27

* for riders with base level handicap rules are that the handicap time is restricted
to base time for the course of 15 mins - this generally applies to new riders and
after 4 time trials the handicaps are reset

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Post by Grogz » 25 Mar 2012 19:03

Good to see you're back on the bike and competing, Simon.

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Post by David Cole » 25 Mar 2012 20:42

Simon
Thanks for updating these results
Please note if anyone is over 60 please let me know as your time will decrease by approx 1%
Paul Deane and Dave Hughes both qualify for a 1% reduction

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Post by Stats » 26 Mar 2012 20:30

David Cole wrote:Simon
Thanks for updating these results
Please note if anyone is over 60 please let me know as your time will decrease by approx 1%
Paul Deane and Dave Hughes both qualify for a 1% reduction

Dave
Yes Dave I had picked up on that so still a little work to do

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Post by Stats » 26 Mar 2012 20:35

Also Sorry Garry Mac is out by 1 sec should be 15.00 16.11 pb 1.11 H/cap also Rosie Croggon is not a Beacon member 1 other thing that also needs to be considered is that to qualify for H/Cap points you should be a paid up member of the club which hopefully will be included in the new Rules

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Post by Ringo » 28 Mar 2012 12:16

hey guys

how many years do you have to be out of competition before your handicap gets reset?

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Post by George » 28 Mar 2012 15:20

Ringo wrote:hey guys

how many years do you have to be out of competition before your handicap gets reset?
I suggest: more years than Ringo's been out of competition, but fewer than I've been out of competition.

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Post by Ringo » 28 Mar 2012 17:52

George wrote:
Ringo wrote:hey guys

how many years do you have to be out of competition before your handicap gets reset?
I suggest: more years than Ringo's been out of competition, but fewer than I've been out of competition.
Thats what I feared :lol:

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Post by Simon Dighton » 31 Mar 2012 10:23

The only change in placings on the handicap table is for Rosie as I believe this was a guest appearance. Steve C - if I have got this wrong please let me know v easy to correct. Dave H and Paul D now have times adjusted for age but as expected this does not impact on the placings. Gary M h'cap looks right - prev PB was 16.11, time 16.12 therefore handicap time 15.01 but again easy to change if wrong (and won't affect placings). All riders have paid their subs. Adrian D - I think you will be back on a restart of handicaps next year based on only 2 rides in 2011 and 2010 and none in 2012. Handicaps for the KC32 /20 scheduled for Apr 7th are unchanged from previous spreadsheet published a couple of weeks ago. If anyone can't find it please drop me a line. This means final results and placings subject to BB review are

K35 6G working Time H'cap Age adj Final Points
24-Mar-12 Min - sec Min - sec Min - sec Min - sec
Brian Botfield 17.23 3.58 13.25 40
Steve Bull 15.27 1.13 14.14 39
Richard Kings 19.09 4.54 14.15 38
Dave Cole 19.15 4.41 0.12 14.22 37
Simon Dighton 16.13 1.43 14.30 36
Neil Compton 18.23 3.51 14.32 35
Charles White 18.58 4.01 14.57 34
Lee Marrow * 17.06 3.00 15.00 33
Richard Greer * 16.32 3.00 15.00 33
Phil Gameson * 17.57 3.00 15.00 33
Gary Macintosh 16.12 1.11 15.01 30
Dave Hughes 19.21 3.30 0.12 15.39 29
Paul Deane 19.03 2.38 0.11 16.14 28

and points

1 Brian Botfield 40
2 Steve Bull 39
3 Richard Kings 38
4 Dave Cole 37
5 Simon Dighton 36
6 Neil Compton 35
7 Charles White 34
8 Lee Marrow 33
9 Richard Greer 33
10 Phil Gameson 33
11 Gary Macintosh 30
12 Dave Hughes 29
13 Paul Deane 28

Any questions please let me know. Not out next week but if I can get the results from the KC 32 should be able to put up draft h'cap positions for that event, and cumulative handicap points, by the end of next weekend.
Best, Simon

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Post by Stats » 31 Mar 2012 16:03

To return to Base Handicaps you must have not competed in any club event for the current or previous 3 seasons although the rules still state that a previous Time or a course may be used The fact that many courses are new does sort of give you a restart

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Post by David Cole » 31 Mar 2012 17:03

Thanks to Brian for organising the event and to Andy and Simon for timekeeping and pushing off
Last week I forgot to thank Simon Packer for putting out the signs and marshalling. My apologies

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