RESULTS Hill Climb KH28 7th Sept

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RESULTS Hill Climb KH28 7th Sept

Post by David Cole » 07 Sep 2013 17:06

Hill Climb KH28 7th Sept 2013
Saintbury Hill


A very small field but a nice afternoon - well done Martin.
Thanks to Eric and Gladys for timing at the finish and to Maggie for pushing off

Martin McGowan 08:20
Rhys Richards 09:12
John Hitchcock 09:16
Brian Botfield 10:26

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Post by HAZBRO » 07 Sep 2013 17:35

Brilliant work Martin, next week is the week that we all have been waiting for though! The KH12 awaits, short, steep and painful!
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Post by George » 07 Sep 2013 19:08

Congrats, Martin.

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Post by Tim » 07 Sep 2013 20:45

8-10mins! Sounds painful. Well done all

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Post by Pedlo Mudguardo » 07 Sep 2013 21:38

Brilliant Martin, congratulations.

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Post by matthew » 07 Sep 2013 21:49

yep well done martin.
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Post by Patch » 08 Sep 2013 08:36

Nice one Martin. So by my reckoning if you got 40 points for that you will have gained 3 to your score moving you up to 1 behind gary.
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Post by Simon Dighton » 08 Sep 2013 08:47

Just working on the points now with the aim of making sure we have all points ready for the season's finale in a week's time with the handicap times all in easy format for the final push.

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Post by Grogz » 08 Sep 2013 10:59

Well done, Martin.

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Post by Mark Patton » 08 Sep 2013 19:57

Top work Martin

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Post by andrew clayton » 08 Sep 2013 21:30

superb effort!!! well done martin

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Post by chalkie » 09 Sep 2013 10:04

any photos - sorry i couldnt be there :o
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Post by RichK » 09 Sep 2013 11:58

Patch wrote:Nice one Martin. So by my reckoning if you got 40 points for that you will have gained 3 to your score moving you up to 1 behind gary.
so it's the big showdown on Sunday then? 8)
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Post by Andy_Craddock » 09 Sep 2013 18:34

Well done Martin, training paid off. Hopefully stand you in good stead for Sunday

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Handicap update

Post by Simon Dighton » 09 Sep 2013 20:04

Results from last week’s hill climb show Martin as the winner scooping all 40 points and staying in contention for the overall handicap trophy. As this is a comparatively unused course handicap times are based on doubling the traditional hill climb times – bit rough on John H but still picking up 37 points. Points are as follows

HC1
Martin McGowan 00:08:20 00:01:14 00:07:06 40
Rhys Richards 00:09:12 00:01:44 00:07:28 39
Brian Botfield 00:10:26 00:02:58 00:07:28 39
John Hitchcock 00:09:16 00:00:16 00:09:00 37

And the handicap table looks like this with the final winner not decided until Sunday – either Gary or Martin;

Position Cum KH/32 K35/6G * 2 K22/39 K34/25 K8/10 K36/4.5*2 K33/10D K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2 K36/4.5*2 Chmp 50 K36/4.5*2 KH/32 K34/10D K34/25 K20/5 New K20/5 New K35 / 6G*2 K35/6G KH28
points 20 mile Hilly 6 MTT Lit. Mtn CANCELLED 20 mile Hilly 12 Hilly 6 MTT HC
1 Gary Macintosh 390 40 40 40 40 40 40 38 36 39 37
2 Martin McGowan 389 39 38 38 40 40 38 39 40 37 40
2 Chris Hudson 376 40 40 35 39 36 39 34 39 35 39
3 Steve Morton 371 37 31 40 37 38 40 39 37 40 32
4 Rhys Richards 370 37 39 38 34 37 36 40 32 38 39
5 Laurence Cooley 350 32 33 36 35 33 39 33 36 33 40
6 Brian Botfield 341 35 36 34 35 28 37 33 31 33 39
7 Steve Bull 259 36 28 36 28 29 29 35 38
8 Kerri Harris 252 26 27 35 29 34 35 31 35
9 Richard Kings 251 30 32 28 30 34 30 36 31
10 Gavin Giles 213 29 35 37 39 36 37
11 Phil Gameson 204 38 33 32 31 32 38
12 Edward Moss 197 36 28 35 31 38 29
13 John Hitchcock 233 31 26 38 31 32 38 37
14 Phil Richards 184 38 37 39 33 37
15 Charles White 148 39 36 40 33
16 Simon Dighton 143 34 34 37 38
17 Neil Compton 135 33 33 31 38
18 Elfyn Jones 109 0 37 37 35
19 Dave Hughes 108 38 33 37
20 Simon Packer 107 32 36 39
21 Anne Hughes 84 24 27 33
22 Nicholas Vipond 74 39 35
23 Tim Egan 73 40 33
24 Matt Regan 71 39 32
25 Amjhet Sangheera 67 28 39
26 Andy Craddock 66 30 36
27 Alistair Hey 64 25 39
28 Phil Field 64 37 27
29 Greg Thompson 38 38
30 Gary Lowe 37 37
31 Ian Taylor 37 37
32 Doug Smith 34 34
33 Sean Mungovan 32 32
34 Lee Marrow 32 32
35 Simon Wheeler 32 32
36 Richard Bussell 31 31
35 Gary Price 31 31
36 Manuel Ochoa 30 30
37 Dave Cole 30 30
36 Tim Ratner 29 29
37 Paul Deane 29 29
38 Darren Casey 27 27
37 Neil Orchard 26 26
38 Tim Raynor 24 24
39 Alex Comis 23 23
40 Mursa Ioan 22 22

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Handicap status

Post by Simon Dighton » 09 Sep 2013 20:05

It’s down to the last TT of the year and a two horse race between Martin McGowan and Gary Macintosh. Gary has a slim one point advantage over Martin and both have raced a full complement of races. This means that to increase their scores they must score more points than their lowest contributing points TT. For example Gary’s lowest score is 36 and to increase Gary must have a handicap position of 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Marin’s lowest score is 37 and therefore Martin’s target is 1st, 2nd or 3rd – ie losing the 37 points but gaining 40,39 or 38 points respectively. Turnout is always high for this traditional event and only Beacon riders who have ridden a TT this year are counted for the handicap calculation. Slight advantage to Gary but Martin posted a 40 pointer last week and a repeat would see him go at least equal top. The list of riders and their handicaps who, if they ride, count on Sunday is shown below so calculations can be done at Waseley over bacon sandwiches and coffee immediately afterwards. Confirmation will then follow as soon as I get back from cyclo cross racing! Good luck to everyone.
Restricted riders cannot have a better time than 3 minutes – this is due to their time being calculated on a base time due to not having previously ridden the hill climb and too few events this year to make a meaningful estimate.

Hope that is all clear!




John Hitchcock 0.38
Simon Dighton 0.56
Nicholas Vipond 1.04
Martin McGowan 1.07
Gary Macintosh 1.08
Neil Compton 1.12
Phil Richards 1.13
Simon Packer 1.15
Gavin Giles 1.17
Rhys Richards 1.20
Edward Moss 1.21
Phil Gameson 1.30
Elfyn Jones 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Tim Egan 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Matt Regan 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Amjhet Sangheera 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Andy Craddock 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Alistair Hey 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Phil Field 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Greg Thompson 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Gary Lowe 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Ian Taylor 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Doug Smith 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Sean Mungovan 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Lee Marrow 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Richard Bussell 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Gary Price 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Manuel Ochoa 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Tim Ratner 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Paul Deane 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Darren Casey 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Neil Orchard 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Tim Raynor 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Alex Comis 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Mursa Ioan 1.30 Restricted to minimum of 3 mins
Laurence Cooley 1.36
Steve Bull 1.39
Simon Wheeler 1.56
Steve Morton 1.58
Brian Botfield 1.59
Richard Kings 2.00
Dave Hughes 2.00
Dave Cole 2.00
Chris Hudson 2.04
Kerri Harris 2.07
Anne Hughes 2.30
Charles White 2.36

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Post by martin mc » 09 Sep 2013 21:55

Big thanks to timekeepers & helpers- Dave, Eric, Gladys & Maggie for giving up your time to do this. We were lucky with the weather as the forecast showers held off.
Just a query Simon, in the event of a tie on handicap points after the Hill Climb on Sunday is it classed as a draw or is there some other method of detrermining handicap competition winner?

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Post by laurence_cooley » 09 Sep 2013 22:01

This is exciting. I don't know whether I'm going to be able to sleep on Saturday night. Just one query, Simon: I don't want to do myself out of 5th place, but there seem to be two people in 2nd. Is this a typo, or am I missing something?

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Post by HAZBRO » 10 Sep 2013 00:35

Whos gonna go quicker than 3 mins up the kh12 anyway!
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Post by martin mc » 10 Sep 2013 08:00

Thats not 3 minutes in outright time but rather handicapped time, eg.if you have a handicap on this course of 1min30secs and actually clocked a time of 4 minutes exactly you would get a handicapped time of 2mins30secs if your time wasn't restricted to 3 minutes.
People who have raced the course before have a handicap time based on previous best eg. mine is 1min7secs as I clocked 4mins7secs last year. If I clocked 4 minutes exactly this year my handicapped time would be 2mins53secs & that time isn't restricted.
This only applies to the handicap points for the handicap competition, this is still the Club Hill Climb Championship & that is decided on outright time on the day.
Confused? Good, just turn up & have a go anyway.

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Post by Neil Compton » 10 Sep 2013 09:44

Not that it has any bearing on the outcome but i seem to missing a score of 40 which i got on the k32/20 on the 6th Apr !!

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Post by Simon Dighton » 10 Sep 2013 22:39

Just picked up a few questions and checking some answers.

Firstly Laurence as the easiest answer is for some reason I have two 2nd places. Chris Hudson should instead be 3rd and everyone else moves down a place.

Martin busy checking the rule book if a tie. Will come back to you before Sunday so we all know.

Neil - I originally had you down as first but think I must have found a different handicap for you which moved you into 8th and 33 points. My revised records show a time of 57-47 in 2010 and a handicap of 10-47 instead of the original handicap given. I can only apologise I did not highlight this at the time.

Please let me know if any more questions and thanks for highlighting the above.
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Post by Neil Compton » 10 Sep 2013 23:30

np, thanks for clearing that up Simon.

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Handicap tie

Post by Simon Dighton » 14 Sep 2013 14:24

Rulebook is silent in the event of a tie so suggest trophy is shared for this year if tied and rules are then updated. Haven't got Committee clearance on this though!

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