Result K36/4.5C 21st May

dweben · Post by **dweben** » 21 May 2014 21:00

Hi all, 30 people turned out which was fun to keep track of! Thanks to Chris for pushing off and doing the starts when I had to go to the finish to take times (so many people!) and my other half who won't see this msg board.

Name Time
Scott Povey 00:20:55
Michel Ondred 00:21:20
Martin McGowan 00:21:58
James Tate 00:22:09
Andrew Sweet 00:22:35
Mike Dalton 00:22:44
Matt Regan 00:22:53
Carl Williams 00:23:03
Phil Richards 00:23:26
Gary Price 00:23:26
Colin Williamson 00:23:41
Carl Woodfield 00:23:54
Richard Kings 00:24:10
Phil Gameson 00:24:11
Kevin Frobisher 00:24:19
Ian Taylor 00:24:22
Keith Acock 00:24:32
Simon Wheeler 00:24:43
Amarjit Sanghera 00:24:55
Claire Fudge 00:25:03
Elfyn Jones 00:25:27
Dave Hughes 00:25:37
Brian Botfield 00:25:40
Philip Farley 00:25:41
Richard Hendrickson 00:26:04
Paul Deane 00:26:26
Andrew Deere 00:26:33
Anne Hughes 00:27:26
Keri Harris 00:28:39
Bob Green 00:30:25

gmac · Post by **gmac** » 21 May 2014 21:18

Mrs Ken Hudson will be pleased

IanT · Post by **IanT** » 21 May 2014 21:30

Great to see such a strong turn out. Thanks to the timekeepers, marshals and helpers - much appreciated.

Thanks also to Laurence for a brave attempt to explain the handicap system. I nodded sagely but in truth didn't understand a word of it...

Patch · Post by **Patch** » 21 May 2014 21:45

A tremendous turnout tonight. Thank you every one.

Patch · Post by **Patch** » 21 May 2014 21:47

Dont worry Keri I have altered it.

jdtate101 · Post by **jdtate101** » 21 May 2014 21:57

Well done everyone...great turnout and what a perfect evening for it too. Some fast times up there...

KevF · Post by **KevF** » 21 May 2014 22:12

Thanks to everyone who helped out tonight - really appeciated.

martin mc · Post by **martin mc** » 21 May 2014 22:16

Thanks to Chris, Laurence, Paul & Pauls Mrs for timekeeping, marshalling etc, not easy with such a great turnout. Well done Scott, cracking time, does anyone know if that's a course record? Fastest time I could find in our archives was 21.06

George · Post by **George** » 21 May 2014 22:21

Excellent!

Pedlo Mudguardo · Post by **Pedlo Mudguardo** » 21 May 2014 22:22

Really sorry I couldn't make it this evening, what a fantastic turnout. Congrats to Scot and well done one and all.

Out of interest, who was the fastest rider on a standard road bike ?

David Cole · Post by **David Cole** » 21 May 2014 22:28

Great turnout - a very popular circuit

Well done everybody

Dave

martin mc · Post by **martin mc** » 21 May 2014 22:35

Pedlo Mudguardo wrote:Really sorry I couldn't make it this evening, what a fantastic turnout. Congrats to Scot and well done one and all.

Out of interest, who was the fastest rider on a standard road bike ?

Fastest road bike was Andy Sweet with 22:35 I think.

dweben · Post by **dweben** » 21 May 2014 22:36

Matt was on a standard road bike... not sure about the two above. Top 4 definately on TT bikes. Scott was on a fixed singlespeed TT ... obviously!

laurence_cooley · Post by **laurence_cooley** » 21 May 2014 22:37

martin mc wrote:Fastest road bike was Andy Sweet with 22:35 I think.

It appeared to be held together with electrical tape, too. The bike, that is, not Andrew.

Simon Dighton · Post by **Simon Dighton** » 22 May 2014 08:14

Some entry for last night and a lot of close handicap times. Given the competition an extra big congrats to Anne H for taking full points.

K36/ 4.5C*2 21-May-14

Anne Hughes 27:26 09:10 00:16 18:00 40
Phil Richards 23:26 04:38 18:48 39
Phil Gameson 24:11 05:11 19:00 38
Richard Kings 24:10 04:52 19:18 37
Keith Adcock 24:32 05:10 19:22 36
Kevin Frobisher 24:19 04:43 19:36 35
Martin McGowan 21:58 02:20 19:38 34
Amarjit Sanghera 24:55 05:17 19:38 33
Matt Regan 22:53 03:00 19:53 32
Ian Taylor 24:22 04:28 19:54 31
Simon Wheeler 24:43 04:47 19:56 30
Andrew Deere 26:33 06:35 19:58 29
Scott Povey 20:55 04:30 20:00 28
James Tate 22:09 04:30 20:00 27
Andrew Sweet 22:35 04:30 20:00 26
Claire Fudge 25:03 05:00 20:03 25
Carl Williams 23:03 02:59 20:04 24
Keri Harris 28:39 08:35 20:04 23
Dave Hughes 25:37 05:11 00:15 20:11 22
Bob Green 30:25 09:51 20:34 21
Paul Deane 26:26 05:35 00:16 20:35 20
Phil Farley 25:41 04:30 21:11 19
Brian Botfield 25:40 03:19 22:21 18
Elfyn Jones 25:27 02:46 22:41 17

jdtate101 · Post by **jdtate101** » 22 May 2014 09:23

How exactly is the handicap worked out? Not sure I can tell from the above post. Is it a combination of age and other factors?

The Wicker Man · Post by **The Wicker Man** » 22 May 2014 09:59

Cheers for putting on a cracking event , really enjoyed it even tho i had a flat tire

rdleaper · Post by **rdleaper** » 22 May 2014 19:54

jdtate101 wrote:How exactly is the handicap worked out? Not sure I can tell from the above post. Is it a combination of age and other factors?

OK so all riders start with a base time, which for this TT was 20 minutes. If you have ridden on the course before and set a PB (in the last 3 seasons) of e.g. 25:00 you get an adjustment of 25 - 20 = 5:00, which gets taken away from your actual finishing time to give a handicap time. So if you then did the course in 24:30 your handicap time would be 19:30.

If you haven't done the course before the adjustment is set at a standard level. It is 4:30 on this course for men, but is higher for women, veterans (not sure of age boundary) and juniors.

There's a spreadsheet on here somewhere which sets a lot of this out; if you can't find it someone like Brian, Chris H or Simon D should have a copy of it.

PS done this from memory of looking at this ages ago so hope I've got it right!

Simon Dighton · Post by **Simon Dighton** » 23 May 2014 09:07

James

Each rider is given a handicap time for a course which is their PB less the base time for that course if they have ridden the course before. If they have not ridden the course a time is estimated based on their other results compared to riders of similar strengths. For riders new to TT a base standard handicap is given if they have ridden 4 or fewer events (which is applied in your case). This base handicap is then deducted from your actual time to give the final result with the proviso that the lowest time you can have is the base time for that course. There should be a link to the detailed rules from the website but let me know if you cannot find.

Basically if you then beat a PB you will end up doing well on the points and you will now have a real handicap on last week's course.

Best
Simon

Patch · Post by **Patch** » 23 May 2014 09:09

Perfectly explained Richard. Simon Dighton works all this out. He does exercise some discretion if courses are similar over the same distance. So for example you may consistently do middling 23min 10s. If you then ride a club 10 on a course you haven't got a time for but is similar to most other 10 courses Simon will usually use your time from the other course.

ScottieP · Post by **ScottieP** » 24 May 2014 07:50

martin mc wrote:Thanks to Chris, Laurence, Paul & Pauls Mrs for timekeeping, marshalling etc, not easy with such a great turnout. Well done Scott, cracking time, does anyone know if that's a course record? Fastest time I could find in our archives was 21.06

Cheers Martin, great ride yourself, i really enjoy that circuit, rode my first ever TT on thoses roads when i was 17 and used the circuit for years to train around on my road bike, hopefully ill be there again this week, thanks to everybody who helped run the event, ill like a bigger push off this week though Chris!

laurence_cooley · Post by **laurence_cooley** » 28 May 2014 23:28

Another spelling correction for the results archive: Michel Ondred should read Michal Ondrej.

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