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Post by Patch » 11 Jan 2015 14:36

So the first of the 5 mile events in July will be the Retro event. Bikes to qualify must be round tubes no rims deeper than 30mm no tri bars. It would be nice though if the bikes were actually retro so I'm thinking along the lines of an extra handicap for bikes pre modern age.

By this I mean pre aheadset so threaded stearer I think this will probably date the bike perfectly. This is all a bit of fun so just see what you can come up with.
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Post by RichK » 11 Jan 2015 16:26

Do we have mechanical stopwatches to do the timing?
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Post by AlanW » 11 Jan 2015 16:34

RichK wrote:Do we have mechanical stopwatches to do the timing?
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Post by petemarshall » 11 Jan 2015 17:09

Sundial will do for me.

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Post by Andy Terry » 11 Jan 2015 17:25

Here we go then ...

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Post by petemarshall » 11 Jan 2015 18:56

Now that is pretty :D

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Post by AlanW » 11 Jan 2015 21:00

Snap.....!

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Post by petemarshall » 11 Jan 2015 21:11

Aero brake levers, when did they come in?
I still have the same rear light bracket in the shed, but no light that fits it. Why I have kept it I have no idea.
And if you have those forks, 531 C I assume, do you want to sell 'em?

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Post by keith » 11 Jan 2015 21:16

Is the Handicap a sliding scale with bike age as i have a 1961 flying scot that could do with an outing, no pics until its been polished :oops:

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Post by George » 12 Jan 2015 09:33

keith wrote:Is the Handicap a sliding scale with bike age as i have a 1961 flying scot that could do with an outing, no pics until its been polished :oops:
That has yet to be decided, Keith, and I think it's only right that Chris/Simon has the final say. However, I wonder whether, for example, (for the bottle of bubbly only, not for the general club comp) we might operate on the basis of the handicap already defined by Simon, PLUS x seconds per year by which the bike predates the year 2010. So someone could ride on a modern steel bike and get their normal handicap, whereas you could ride on the basis of your normal allowance plus 49 * x seconds.
Most people reckon that a modern TT bike is worth at least 2 minutes in a 25 (compared with a traditional machine). So, in a 5, we're talking about roughly half a minute. So an extra 1 second per year would give me 25 seconds for my 1985 bike, and you'd get 49 seconds for your 1961 bike.
Or you could simplify it and have age bands.
Or you could have a judge making subjective on-the-spot decisions, e.g. penalising people who put modern pedal systems on their old bikes.

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Post by snailmale » 12 Jan 2015 12:51

I have the retro bike.

Unfortunately my retro legs are proving impervious to all attempts at refurbishment.
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Post by George » 12 Jan 2015 13:46

snailmale wrote:I have the retro bike.

Unfortunately my retro legs are proving impervious to all attempts at refurbishment.
Alan, my personal view is that it would be great to see some classic machines on display, even if they are only parked up at the start-finish area. However, I also know that you are more than capable of riding five miles at 'cruising' speed. I don't suppose you'll give Tony and Dave much of a run for their money on their RRA record-breaking tandem ... but so what? It's just a bit of fun, and I'll buy you a beer afterwards.

Besides, just think how your writing circle fans will swoon when you say, "Excuse me ladies, I must log off now, because I'm racing tonight."

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Post by Patch » 15 Jan 2015 22:20

My feelings exactly George how ace would that be.
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Post by deero83 » 26 Jan 2015 15:58

https://www.dropbox.com/s/giwh9waqx66le ... 1.jpg?dl=0 (can't work out how to post pics direct?)

My dad's old Sun Wasp "Maillot Jaune" from the early 60s, now converted to single speed.

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Post by Dave Cox » 26 Jan 2015 19:07

Wow Andy what a heritage!

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Post by deero83 » 18 Jul 2015 08:25

When and where is the Heroica being held? I'd love to dust off the Sun Wasp and give it a go!

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Post by RichK » 18 Jul 2015 17:43

deero83 wrote:When and where is the Heroica being held? I'd love to dust off the Sun Wasp and give it a go!
It's this Wednesdays club TT

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Post by Patch » 21 Jul 2015 20:36

I'm going to decide if a bikes eligible on the night. My definition is threaded steerer, no tri bars and wheels with more than 16 spokes. Roughly speaking this will date the bike in the late 80s. It was around this time that CTT lifted its ban on disc wheels and tri bars so the threaded steerer bit will largely self regulate. It would be nice if bikes didn't have STI levers but I realise that this will mean many machines won't qualify so I'm going to overlook this.
Ordinary aero levers will be fine there were plenty of these available from about 1985.
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Post by keith » 22 Jul 2015 00:02

The combined age of me and bike(well most of it ) will be will be 107 , about the time in minutes it will take me to complete the course, a TT bike might well be worth half a minute but that,s on a modern road bike.
Should be a blast, because TT s aren't hard enough already


I wonder if the Kidderminster Killer would be possible on said steed,

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Post by George » 22 Jul 2015 10:40

keith wrote:The combined age of me and bike (well most of it) will be will be 107
Why didn't you mention this earlier, Keith? Would have been a marvelous basis for handicapping!

(I can only claim a combined age of pushing 90.)

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Post by IanT » 22 Jul 2015 22:02

Well done to all this evening, some good times and heroic bikes! Here's a link to some random photos from the finish line, apols for quality, taken on phone.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itimages/

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